Sponsorships

It is the voted-on opinion of CBP that sponsorships are of limited use to bike polo as we play it now. The tournaments we plan are celebrations of community, and that community supports itself at those tournaments. Food, drink, places to overnight, respecting a ho-made trophy as a prize, etc.

That said, we aren't against, and are actually looking at a handful of very polo specific manufactured items for prizes or give aways. Headbadges, printed wheel guards, sets of mallets/balls, etc. T-shirts are out. I've got a drawer full of bike event t-shirts

Two things in response to the 3rd's hosted by Milwaukee, who pursued many sponsors, both local and national.
1. Some of it was great and appropriate and some of it was crap you had to make up excuses for to give it away to a crowd. At least you tried. It's not a direction I would've gone, and the whole scene is better off for having conducted the experiment.
2. Money: As these things get bigger, they will need municipal approval, or at least some insurance against municipal interference. That kind of legitimacy is for sale at a high price. The projected fees and insurance to hold the NACCC tourney in a Chicago city park are around 6 grand. $2,000 from PBR would help. Otherwise, one of the strategies we're considering is trying to sell at a profit all the junk we make for ourselves now: Mallets, patches, triangle guards, headbadges, etc.

Any ideas/suggestions/responses?

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A few personal responses-not voted on or to be held as the thoughts or opinions of all of MBPC-

I have and want to continue to enjoy traveling to polo tourneys all over the country. traveling costs money, gas, car rental, food, tournament entry fees, spare tubes /tires/ wheels/mallets to bring along all cost money. I think going to the tourney in ottawa ran the 3 of us a total of about 7-800 dollars.

I am not rich and with the 2008 Polo season shaping up to be a long and traveled one with tourneys already planned or being planned in Toronto, NYC, Ottawa, Madison, and Chicago it will get hella expensive to go to all of these as well as work enough in between them to support going to the next one as well as paying bills here at home.

I fully agreee that Polo is a great community and once i get to the tourney that community ,may be able to put me up for the night get me some din din and maybe some free beer but this community does not pay for me to get there nor do they pay for the equipment i compete on, which often gets trashed.

On the municpalities note-
1.i think Christian, our PBR rep, gave you guys the info for the chicago PBR rep. I would suggest using it and trying to get Pabst to help out with the NACCC event financially.

2.legitimate places to play have begun to arise with the growth of the sport. It was different when we had 8 guys in the parking garage than when we now have over 20- 2 nights a week. When searching for a spot to hold the 3rds i contacted CPS parking because they have a large mostly unused lot in the summer festival off season. The events coordinater at CPS informed me that to hold an event on their grounds you need to have a $1,000,000 insurance policy to cover your group. Obviously we do not have that.
Playing in County parks and such is a possibility but still Bike polo is not as sanctioned as soccer or football in park. Leading to possibility of being kicked out of or not allowed to play on grass or cement, mainly because the sport is not viewed as legitimate by the higher ups. basically my point being here that paying for a place to play legitimatly is expensive and sometimes even with the funding may be unable to get approved.

as far as crap making up to give away

HEY WHO DOESN'T WANT SOME FREE PBR CRAP?
and the other stuff came from left over stuff from the Chemuaequon fat tire fest that the Crandal's had put on few weeks earlier.

Yes this is all a learning experiance for everyone and i think as long as we continue to discuss and organize we are heading in the right direction.

-jake

sponsorship ideas

I like some of jakes ideas. It was great to have good amounts of schwag to give to people at the end. It made it kind of a fun little after party, i mean after awhile it was a little silly though. That being said it was rad, way to go milwaukee (btw jake, did you ever get money from the selen studios?). We need to think about spaces, madison has a great place for hardcourt and grass. I'm guessing in general that we will have an easier time finding a place to play on grass from city to city. I would like to say that if a city plans a tourney then the space should be thought about well before hosting.

I think putting 6g's into a tournament is a massive waist of money. We would be much better renting a bus and brining everyone up to madison instead of giving the money to some insurance company. Anyway, something to be thought about.

Good points and well said

Good points and well said Jake. I was thinking only of the event, and not the participants.

I wouldn't turn my nose up at anyone who went through the work of getting sponsors for their team if that's what would enable them to play better/more. If a local bike shop or whoever wants to put a logo on the triangle guard, nascar style, in exchange for replaceing all the tires and tubes you skid through, more power to you. If having "Team PBR" jackets is what rents the van and buys the gas that gets you to Toronto, fine with me. (It won't make me drink too much of their beer, though) It's my style to try to pool everyone's resources and talents to get things done inside the scene. Going outside is just as legit, even if it's not what I think of to try.

We just had a discussion about starting a CBP checking account and buying a van collectively. The van doesn't work out (renting is cheaper, even if we traveled once a month). But the discussion was an acknowledgment of how much people are spending their own money to get out to all these events.

About fields: It's tough not being able to reserve parkspace for grass tourneys in Chicago. The efforts to host the NACCC have proven that we can reserve tennis courts for cement events, though. We went around to a lot of parks to try to find a quiet one with enough space for 3 games. We tried to scope them out around when in the week we wanted to use it, to judge if it was going to be reserved by someone else. For the 2nd's we guessed wrong. After the NACCCs, Ben is going to use his Park District contacts to try to get grass polo unbanned.

About renting a bus: I don't think that would work. There will be overlap between the race and the tourney, and it's better for participants and audience if it's in the same space as the NACCC. We'll do everything we can to get the price down, including pursuing sponsors, so that it's all taken care of, and the entry fee won't be 50 bux a person.

i think you missed the point

that it is a waste of resources to through 6gs to an insurance company. Sure you can bust your asses for that but i might say that it would be better to find a space that works without an insurance clause.

now 6g's in prizes that would be awesome,

jonny

I think you missed the

I think you missed the point. It's a two day event that overlaps a national, sanctioned, closed course race. If we want any crossover in participants and audience, we've got to hold it in the same place. This year, that place is Garfield Park. Busing people away from the city or even the park is not an option. No matter how good a host y'all are or how awesome your thunderdome.

6 grand is a conservative estimate, and it's not all insurance. A big chunk is fees for the park, which I don't mind supporting as much. The price goes up or down depending on options like: Do we want vendors there? Do we want a P.A. system? Do we need an ambulance on standby? Portapotties, etc.

Big cash prizes are probably not gonna happen. We're working with vendors to try to make awesome top prizes and neat entry prizes. The best reason to come will be to be able to play with so many people from so many places.

Don't think I didn't notice your "waist" edit.

weve all be noticeing jonnys waist

this is hilarious. in one breath your talking about being a self supported comunity and the next its trying to decide how many amps for the pa and if we can get a mexi hotdog vender cart there

look lets put out a flat grass field. that is what matters. cut to the chase its not about playing with lots of cool people from all over. its about kicking peoples asses from all over and showing nyc that having a couple of bashers and sniper cant do jack agaisnt the best defender ever

oh and i am changing my name to jessie

Hector's Hotdogs!

if we have hotdog vendors we gotta get HECTOR from Quicksilver to be there.

im changing my name to Bernard

sweet

I'm changing my name to todd.

oh my god your not going to believe this

todd is my middle name

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