Why didn't that match play?

Hopefully everyone comes to the NACCC, and we can arrange a grudge match.

I'm proud of all of y'all, by the way. Great showing.

what kind of things?..... this concerns me....

The Downtown L.A. Messengers wish they could of been there, we're all saving for the NACCC. Hope everyone got brutal. We'll see everyone in Chicago. Till then keep playin polo..

come out n play tonight at LAB 8-we quit, usually midnight-ish

come out n play tonight at LAB 8-we quit, usually midnight-ish

are the rest of the results going to be posted, and where? I'd like to see how the rest of the participants I know did.

i'm not really sure that anyone kept that good of records here. But here is what i remember.

Chicago 1, lost to milwaukee 1 in the second round. Kind of a bullshit seeding but MKE pulled through 5-2. MKE then in my favorite game of the day beat Party of Champions (Ottawa, angelo, robbie and alexis) 5-4 in the quarters, then lost to East Van in the semi's. Of all the teams their i really feel that Joe, Crandall and Jake got screwed the most, they came out of the round robin beating a good team from ottawa 5-0 and didn't get scored on and scored 15 goals. Then they got seeded 7th or 8th, to get to the semi-finals they had to beat chicago, ottawa, two top teams when other teams just had to play one tough game.

Doug's team beat We Are 138 (cory, adam and Jen's team) in the quarters then beat us in the Semi's. Also We Are 138 knocked off the Seattle Portland Team.

We beat Appleton, MKE (Cody, Matt and Guthrie) in the second round, then knocked off East Vancouver's other team in the quarters.

I'm not really sure how East Vancouver made it to the finals, but i think they had a pretty simple shot their, something about their captain organizing the bracket.

that we could beat east van. that jackal guys a little baby, with little to no ball skills. first time he hoes ballz deep he's done.

have we every though about doing a bracket to start the tourny and a round robin to seed the final game?

just a thought.

hey crandle, i need to know do you have a team for the Seattle tourny on the 19 and 20th if not jonny and i are going to be coming out to play and would be interested in playing with you.

flip it and reverse it.

for nacc lets start with brackets, that double eliminate all but 8 or twelve teams then we do a round robin to create the final 4, is that wack?

i like it cause the most competitive polo is the in the final 12,, and since we dont have a decent seeding system this way its fair to all those teams.

about the less than winners bracket. its super important that all players feel like tourneys offer competitive play, and we also need to offer prizes that are quality for those as well, like wheel sets , proper bags, drugs, and temporary tattoos.

At the Espi's they were able to have a double elim bracket which was good for 2 reasons.

a)if you lost a match you could still fight your way back to the finals(i.e. mke's team playing philly for a shot at NYC)

b) the teams that lose once in the bracket still get to play at least one more game and not feel like they came all that way to be kicked out after one bracket game.

Im also for larger round robin pools-- that going along with having traveled so far some teams only played 4 games that were part of the tourney 75$ 12 hours and 4 games? even the winners only played 8 games. more games!! especially when we had 4 courts there.

i also agree for cool awesome prizes for consolation winners and such maybe even DFL prizes.
otherwise the teams arent gonna wanna come if they have to pay a bunch and know they will lose to my team

..."tournaments" in wikipedia. I have. And I've read every page that links to it.

Without a season, or any other way to rank teams going into a tournament aside from "are you the 'A' or 'B' team from your town?"(still pretty subjective) the world cup style that we in the midwest adopted at the outset is the most fair AND it means the most guaranteed games for participants.

If 32 teams come to the NACCC: there will be four groups of 8 mixed with teams of different abilities from different places. So you neither play with people you're used to playing with nor are all the potential 1st place teams put in one block thus eliminating up to 6 of them. This means 7 games for each team on Saturday.

We could then pull the top 4,3, or 2 teams from each group to play in the finals. Who plays whom when is by record (you wouldn't put two 7-0 teams against each other in the first round of single elimination play, save that shit for a championship match). If two or more teams have the same record; goals scored, goals against, and best cheer/fight song will determine ranking. Then you proceed through the finals until the two best teams play each other.

Any other system reduces the number of games you are likely to play at that tournament, and is therefore bull shit. It will be different if we're ever all playing by the same rules, on similar courts, with similar equipment, and start keeping teams and standings throughout a season inter and intra city, regionally, and internationally.

hows that for bull shit

If a tournament ended in a round robin, there would be no championship match, no cinderella narratives, no crowd of people to watch and cheer on as things got closer and closer.

We would all play however many game apiece on separate courts at different times and the team with the best record (using the above tie-breakers) would be crowned champ later.

Not exciting enough for me. Look at the swiss system. It's how they run chess tournaments, it ranks people as the day progresses, and that sets up the brackets. But again, the round robin guarantees the most games to everyone.

We could have the remaining teams within the groups play a separate bracket I suppose, but to what effect? Best of the rest? In the 32 team scenario, it would be 17th place.

then you get your cheers, and everyone else gets their games, but the best argument is jakes.

making sure that bullshit doesnt drop teams from the progression that should be there

i think double elimination takes care of that

I just want to say, and you all may already know but, at the May tourny in NYC, the BBQ one, we had 17 teams play a two day total of 14 games! Plus some pick-up games. Every team played 14 games, not just the top team. mind you this was all on one court. but the games were to 8 min. a very good time considering we had 120 games to get through.
So next time NY has a tourny, you should come out. It'll be sweet.
Los Marcos anyone?

-doug-

I just spoke with the rest of the NACCC polo committee. The tournament will be group play Saturday seeding a double elimination bracket Sunday. So everyone is guaranteed all their group games on Saturday and at least two bracket games on Sunday,

So your standing in your home town and any big tourneys you've been to will kinda count towards how the groups are split up, but how you play in Chicago will count more.

I'm told that registration opens next week.